Episode 18 – The Success Series | Why Dr. Stacy Chose Foundation Over Gimmicks & How It Changed Her Marketing
In this Success Series conversation, Nicole talks with Dr. Stacy about why she chose a foundation-first approach instead of gimmicky, surface-level marketing. She shares how MDA’s relationship-focused process aligned with her philosophy, what made her feel confident taking the next step, and how collaboration, creativity, and PatientCaptureNow have helped her boutique practice grow with intention and authenticity.
00:00:00.719 --> 00:00:10.800 I wanted my marketing to really reflect who I was as a dentist and how I wanted 00:00:09.200 --> 00:00:16.080 to practice and what I wanted to offer to my patients. And I felt like um MDA 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:19.680 really got that um they understood that and that I felt confident that they 00:00:18.240 --> 00:00:22.400 could deliver that type of message. And I feel like they also help to hold us a 00:00:21.279 --> 00:00:25.680 little accountable. you know, the things that are maybe a little out of my 00:00:23.439 --> 00:00:29.439 comfort zone of what I would want to do with marketing, but knowing that it 00:00:27.439 --> 00:00:33.440 works and it's proven and they do a great job with it. When we were feeling 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:38.719 a little less creative or not knowing how to, you know, make something 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:43.760 represent who we were, MDA shines in that aspect. They just really have um 00:00:41.680 --> 00:00:46.960 made us feel like our visions are even better, you know, completing those than 00:00:45.360 --> 00:00:51.840 what we had originally started with. So, I started literally like 3 days 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:56.399 after you had your kickoff. So you were okay client before I started working 00:00:54.480 --> 00:00:59.199 with all the clients. So I know of you because I've heard you know the 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:03.840 website's done and this is ready and you know all these things but hadn't got to 00:01:00.879 --> 00:01:08.640 actually see you and I know that you are a DST client as well and if I'm not 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:14.400 mistaken you guys you saw Jackie and Sean at one of the events in Nashville 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:17.920 at did the did the call and did the master plan and that whole thing. So we 00:01:16.080 --> 00:01:23.520 have a lot of people that come in that way. So, I would love to hear from you 00:01:21.520 --> 00:01:27.920 to someone sitting in that room hearing their little 15inute presentation before 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:32.240 lunch and someone me most likely coming from them saying, "Hey, let's let's get 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:37.280 you your free master plan." What would you tell that person now knowing 00:01:35.119 --> 00:01:40.560 everything you do 14 months after your kickoff? 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:49.040 Well, sure. I mean just where it was presented, you know, I um I am a slow to 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:54.560 commit to something that I feel like is very impactful for my practice and my 00:01:51.600 --> 00:01:58.640 life. And having already had this introduced to me at the DST event, which 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:03.920 I had already like taken my time to decide that I was going to, you know, 00:02:00.960 --> 00:02:07.280 have DST as a part of my life that that just kind of brought it to the forefront 00:02:05.360 --> 00:02:13.040 for me of like this is something that, you know, I have a trusted um group and 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:17.440 organization that I'm with that is presenting this to me and this is 00:02:15.920 --> 00:02:21.280 something I've been thinking about for a while but haven't taken any of these 00:02:19.200 --> 00:02:26.800 steps towards. So just having come from that kind of environment that was 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:31.280 helpful in general. I think that having Sean and Jackie um at that sort of event 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:34.480 made a big difference for me just because it was something that I was 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:40.879 already involved with. It was something that I had put thoughtful approach into. 00:02:36.640 --> 00:02:45.680 And so it was um I guess it was just what I thought maybe would help me to 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:49.280 continue on that track. And I think that's the case. You know, that's what's 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:54.480 h that's what's happened thus far. So, I guess telling people, you know, what I 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:57.440 knew then was just, is this something I should do or not? It's presented before 00:02:56.000 --> 00:03:02.319 me. I'm just going to take the step and try it out. And I'm so glad I did. Like, 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:08.640 working with MDA has been wonderful. and the relationship that um was initiated, 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:12.959 you know, even before I was a when I was just a prospective client, you know, 00:03:10.480 --> 00:03:17.760 with that with the invested time that they made in the interview that just 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:20.720 kind of solidified it for me of of they're taking this time to get to know 00:03:19.040 --> 00:03:25.760 me, to get to know what I want this all to be about. This is important to me. 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:29.840 This isn't just a like rushed decision. Um, there's a reason why I hadn't had 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:33.280 this type of, you know, commitment to marketing in my life before because I 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:37.599 wanted to put the thought and effort to make sure it went well. And after having 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:42.159 talked to them for that short amount of time, I was like, hey, I I don't have to 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:45.760 do all this. they they can they can take what they 00:03:44.239 --> 00:03:52.239 you know are gathering the information from me and really using it to my 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:57.840 advantage of um replicating what type of message that's um genuine that I'm 00:03:55.200 --> 00:04:04.000 trying to deliver. So I would tell people go for it go for it. Yeah. 00:04:01.519 --> 00:04:09.680 Awesome. So when you started with NDA you really embraced the idea of building 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:13.840 a strong foundation before expecting big results because a lot of times it's ROI. 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:18.959 what's going on? And you know, I think you really understood that it takes time 00:04:16.799 --> 00:04:22.479 and we have to build. You know, why was that important to you? 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:26.240 Um, that was important to me just knowing that it does take time to build 00:04:23.919 --> 00:04:31.919 because that's how I build my practice. You know, the the idea that things don't 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:36.320 just come easily overnight. And um, like I'd mentioned, it was a thoughtful 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:39.840 approach to be able to um kind of continue with them and have that 00:04:37.440 --> 00:04:45.600 conversation with them as a prospective client. Um, and it was something that I 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:50.240 knew that I wanted to do, but I didn't just like all the gimmicky things that I 00:04:47.520 --> 00:04:53.120 had seen in different, you know, organizations around me or different 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:57.120 practices and how they operated. And I knew that wasn't for me. I wanted 00:04:55.199 --> 00:05:02.000 someone who was going to invest in my philosophy um in the way that I was 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:07.199 doing things and help understand that and then be able to present that message 00:05:04.960 --> 00:05:14.479 to prospect, you know, prospective patients just in the way that I wanted 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:19.520 my marketing to really reflect who I was as a dentist and how I wanted to 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:24.720 practice and what I wanted to offer to my patients. And I felt like um MDA 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:28.479 really got that um they understood that and that I felt confident that they 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:32.240 could deliver that type of message. So I like I said I haven't had a chance 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:35.919 to work with you myself but I've talked to the team about you and our project 00:05:34.320 --> 00:05:39.600 management team Jackie Sean they all describe you as a true partner. So 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:43.199 you're you've been very open to collaboration. You've been willing to 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:48.080 share what's happening in the practice. So how has that partnership approach 00:05:44.960 --> 00:05:52.160 shaped your experience with MDA? Well, I would say that definitely our 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:56.160 relationship with MDA is a collaborative relationship and that was apparent from 00:05:53.919 --> 00:06:01.120 the start. Like I said, just from the amount of time that they invested in me, 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:06.960 they were very uh welcoming. They were very uh genuine and informative. And 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:11.440 those are all the things that I strive to be u for a prospective patient in my 00:06:09.280 --> 00:06:16.880 practice as a new patient that I want them to feel comfortable right away and 00:06:13.280 --> 00:06:21.919 that I listen and that I care and that I really want to um set goals and help to 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:26.560 achieve them. And I felt that reflected in that initial meeting with Shauna and 00:06:24.479 --> 00:06:31.039 Jackie. And so I just knew from the start I was like this is a good fit. 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:37.360 This is the way that I do things. So I do feel like it's been very um easy to 00:06:34.080 --> 00:06:42.160 communicate ideas and share ideas openly um with everyone at MBA for that matter. 00:06:39.840 --> 00:06:47.520 So that's been a real delight and something that um I had waited for some 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:50.880 time to approach you know the aspect of marketing and my practice and it was 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:56.560 worth the wait. Oh thank you. I'm I'm so glad you shared 00:06:53.440 --> 00:07:01.840 it in that way. You know, just to keep going on that same point, you've come 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:07.440 with a lot of your own ideas and so MDA has been open to listen and then expand 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:12.240 on those ideas and build on them. So, how do you feel like MDA adds creativity 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:16.319 and guidance rather than just checking the box, you know, oh, you want a star 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:19.360 right here? Okay, here's your star. You know, that's sometimes what you get, you 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:22.639 know, when you're working, whether it's website design or even something beyond 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:26.639 that. It's just like I'm going to do exactly what you asked instead of giving 00:07:25.039 --> 00:07:30.080 you a little bit more. Oh, for sure. Yeah. So, there were some 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:35.360 ideas that we had coming into this. You know, it was something how I had kind of 00:07:31.919 --> 00:07:41.599 a vision but didn't have the skills to be able to achieve that vision and when 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:46.400 I expressed what my ideas were or our team expressed our ideas to MDA, they 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:50.639 could take that and expand on it and make it better. Um, they we would throw 00:07:48.960 --> 00:07:53.840 ideas back and forth. you know, how about this? What will we do with this? 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:58.240 And they were prompted their responses. So, the communication was open. And it's 00:07:56.400 --> 00:08:02.879 when we were feeling a little less creative or not knowing how to, you 00:08:00.400 --> 00:08:08.800 know, make something represent who we were. MDA shines in that aspect. They 00:08:05.840 --> 00:08:12.160 just really have um made us feel like our visions are even better, you know, 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:14.879 completing those than what we had originally started with. So, that's been 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:19.199 wonderful. Awesome. So you're running a small 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:23.759 practice. So when that's the case, you know, resources can be stretched. So how 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:29.280 has working with MDA helped you focus your energy on what matters most? 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:32.880 Yeah, I think just the establishing that relationship um 00:08:31.440 --> 00:08:37.839 them taking the time to get to know who we were um what our practice is all 00:08:34.880 --> 00:08:43.039 about. It it really took it off of my hands in a way that I feel comfortable 00:08:40.640 --> 00:08:47.360 and confident that they are doing what they know best because that's what I 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:51.519 need to do. So, in the way of being able to trust that they are doing that for 00:08:48.880 --> 00:08:56.399 me, um then I can really reflect that into my practice and do what I know best 00:08:53.600 --> 00:09:00.000 um taking care of my patients. So, I enjoy that comfortability and knowing 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:04.480 that that's occurring without me having to, you know, micromanage or make things 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:07.519 happen on my own. That's been wonderful as well. 00:09:05.920 --> 00:09:11.440 And so, I know a big part of that is patient capture now. So, how has that 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:15.760 tool, you know, having that in your marketing tool belt, how has that helped 00:09:13.760 --> 00:09:20.480 your team connect more with potential patients? Yeah, the um from what I'm 00:09:18.880 --> 00:09:25.360 aware of because I'm not using it as regular as regularly as obviously my 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:30.160 front office, but um I think that it has allowed my team to focus their energy 00:09:27.920 --> 00:09:33.200 elsewhere, you know, where if we were trying to track down patients or chasing 00:09:31.839 --> 00:09:37.200 them and trying to follow up or remembering and making list after list, 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:42.080 that sort of thing. Um has allowed their time to be focused elsewhere. and um 00:09:39.760 --> 00:09:46.720 really trusting that the patients who are really interested in coming to our 00:09:44.160 --> 00:09:50.560 office, it's getting their attention and and then bringing that back to us so we 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:57.360 can make those final steps. So, it definitely has um helped us to achieve 00:09:54.320 --> 00:10:01.680 the type of patient that we want um in a way that they're interested in what we 00:09:58.959 --> 00:10:04.480 do here as our philosophy. So, that's been helpful. 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:08.959 Awesome. So, I'm the relationship development manager. So, I spend a lot 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:12.800 of time talking to our prospects before they become clients. And what I I like 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:16.720 to stress, but it's hard to sometimes paint in words, is when you're working 00:10:14.640 --> 00:10:22.079 with MDA, we are a true partner. It's it's like you have another person on 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:25.760 your team, except it's this multiaceted person who has skills in web design and 00:10:23.920 --> 00:10:29.839 project management and all these things because you get all of us. You know, 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:35.040 we're a small boutique agency, but you get all of us when you're working with 00:10:32.079 --> 00:10:39.279 us. And what you described, I feel like is what I try to describe is that it's 00:10:36.880 --> 00:10:43.440 like having that other team member there in the in the way of PCN. You know, 00:10:41.760 --> 00:10:47.040 that's the electronic team member texting and emailing people back and 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:51.519 then you have that creative team member who's bouncing those ideas. Is is does 00:10:49.680 --> 00:10:55.920 it feel that way to you? Like MDA is almost that other person, other team 00:10:53.680 --> 00:10:58.800 member that you have in the office? Most definitely. I mean, we've always 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:02.320 thought like maybe we can hire someone that has these skills along with all the 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:05.760 other skills that we need them to have and, you know, looking for this unicorn 00:11:04.160 --> 00:11:11.279 employee that's going to come join our practice. um when knowing that there are 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:15.920 parts of um my office and practice, you know, we're very focused on patient care 00:11:12.959 --> 00:11:20.000 and um a lot of that is involved with communicating and keeping that 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:23.920 communication open uh with patients, but but there's already so many things going 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:28.800 on, you know, and having a I enjoy having a small practice, so it's nice to 00:11:25.920 --> 00:11:32.079 have that aspect on um on our team with MDA. And I feel like they also help to 00:11:30.880 --> 00:11:35.360 hold us a little accountable. You know, the things that are maybe a little out 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:39.440 of my comfort zone of what I would want to do with marketing, but knowing that 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:45.440 it works and it's proven and they do a great job with it. So, just um I've I 00:11:42.800 --> 00:11:50.640 enjoy how this relationship is going. Um maybe it's maybe it's feeling for MBA 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:55.519 that it's working slower on my end of moving forward, but but no, it's it's I 00:11:53.600 --> 00:12:00.560 I enjoy that challenge. You know, you never can grow unless you're challenged. 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:05.360 And I feel that if it were an employee, they may not ever challenge me, you 00:12:02.640 --> 00:12:10.240 know, as their employer. But having this partnership with MDA is helping me grow 00:12:08.079 --> 00:12:18.000 in areas that I wouldn't have expected to. Um, but it also helps me to um give 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:24.000 another uh facet of how to express how passionate I am about what I do. and um 00:12:21.680 --> 00:12:28.720 and they can help me kind of expand on that creativity, I guess, in the way 00:12:25.920 --> 00:12:32.320 that maybe that's not exactly where my comfort zone is. But those are what I'm 00:12:31.040 --> 00:12:35.920 trying those are the words I'm trying to say. That is the message that I'm trying 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:38.639 to reflect and they do a great job of doing that. 00:12:36.800 --> 00:12:42.880 Oh, thank you. Thank you so much for sharing that. I'll just end it with is 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:46.800 there anything else that you want to share that you think would help someone 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:51.920 who's you know kind of getting over the hump of deciding yes this is how I 00:12:48.800 --> 00:12:55.279 should invest yes the time is now you know you've said a great so you don't 00:12:54.160 --> 00:12:59.839 have to say another word but if you yeah I think maybe just just that um how 00:12:58.079 --> 00:13:03.920 I said I'm kind of uh slow in my approach to things I don't make 00:13:01.680 --> 00:13:11.360 decisions just immediately and that can be good and bad um but I feel like I do 00:13:07.680 --> 00:13:17.680 really base my commitments to other organizations on relationships and how 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:22.399 those are built and what type of um you know time or energy is invested in that 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:29.920 in a way that it's um efficient and effective and I feel like that is what I 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:34.800 have found in MDA. I mean really that it was that I feel comfortable. it's not 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:40.800 something that I would feel, you know, apprehensive to ask a question or that 00:13:37.920 --> 00:13:46.160 my idea is not a good idea. Um, those types of things because MBA can help 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:52.639 develop that. You know, the idea of making a video, but they can edit it for 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:57.040 me, make me look better than I would think that I would be able to present on 00:13:54.240 --> 00:14:00.720 that. So, I think just like um the idea of like I said, just challenging me in 00:13:59.040 --> 00:14:06.560 ways that maybe put me a little bit out of my comfort zone um but that even 00:14:04.160 --> 00:14:09.440 though I might groom us, it's still I appreciate it. I appreciate the change 00:14:08.079 --> 00:14:11.600 and the challenge. Yeah. 00:14:09.920 --> 00:14:15.360 Thank you. Thank you so much. We appreciate you for taking the time to do 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:19.600 this. I know scheduling can be difficult and you're so busy and so this is 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:19.600 amazing.


